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  posted on 10/12/2007 at 19:04 
Hi, I'm wondering if anyone here has any knowledge of reissue '57 Strats. What I want to do is wire my strat so I can use the bridge pickup in the bridge position, the neck and middle pickups (without the bridge) in the middle position, and the neck postion in the neck position. If you don't know, '57 reissues have a 3-way selector, not a 5-way. I don't have the money or want to go and buy a 5-way, so I'm just gonna wire it.

Another possibility I though up was, could you just rewire one of the tone pots so it was an individual volume pot for the brige pickup. That way, you could just turn that pot off to remove the bridge pickup when you're on the middle selection.

I also just thought up another possibility that I'd actually be more happy with if it can be done. Can anyone tell me how to rewire the pots so they each control the volume of one pickup? I don't use the tone pots ever anyway, so it wouldn't be big deal to not have them for me. I don't know whats involved with that (maybe removing the capacitor and just soldering each of the pickups to an individual pot?), but maybe someone will know. I've tried looking at the wiring and doing it myself, but its just too simple for me to know what to put where, the wiring that is.

Help PLEASE!!! Any reply is appreciated. If what I'm saying is confusing you, please ask for an explanation and I'd be happy to clarify.

 

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  posted on 10/12/2007 at 19:33,  Reply 1  
Please clarify a little I have a 57 reissue. The volume does control all the pickups or should if it's a stock setup. Just unhook the tone pots if you don't use them.

Please clarify

 

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  posted on 10/12/2007 at 19:43,  Reply 2  
So you want 3 volume pots right? with no tone pots?


 
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  posted on 10/14/2007 at 16:12,  Reply 3  
Yes, no tone pots, just 3 individual pickup volume knobs. This wouldn't effect the tone right? Like, if there isn't tone pots, the guitar will sound as if the tone pots were at 10 right? I have a very basic understanding of way tone pots work. They just cut out or dampen the higher frequencies/sounds right? The only control I've been able to actually control the tone with favorably is the volume (turning it down to like 4 or 2).

I'd still like to know how to do this anyhow, if you know.

 

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  posted on 10/16/2007 at 11:48,  Reply 4  
That's correct without the one knobs it's like having the tone on 10.

You would basically wire the white wire from each single coil pickup to the the middle lug of the volume pots, the right lug of the volume pots would be grounded and the left lug of each volume pots would go to the switch. The black wire from the pickups would also be grounded. Wire the tip of the output jack to the "middle" volume pot "left lug" . Ground the sleeve of the output jack along another grounds like to the bridge.


This should work fine!

 
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  posted on 10/17/2007 at 13:27,  Reply 5  
Not sure I see the point of having 3 volumes and not tone controll.
Found you the wiring diagram for the american standard strat
http://www.fender.com/support/diagrams/pdfs/ASSTRAT/SD0107400 CPg2.pdf

 

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  posted on 10/17/2007 at 21:37,  Reply 6  
Well, I NEVER use the tone controls. I've tried and I just can't. I can honestly say I don't see the point in them. On every guitar I've owned, all they've done for me is make the guitar sound muddy, they either allow all the "highs" through, or they completely shut them out, theres never been an "in-between". I control the tone with the volume by turning the amp up higher and setting the volume lower or higher depending on what I need. I'm sure if I bought some nicer pots than the ones that are in it, they'd actually do something and be worth keeping, but I have no money.

What I picture this modification doing is allowing me to use any combination of pickup I want when in the middle position. I know this kind of makes the selector redudant, but I've always wanted the ability to do this.

I just noticed that the wiring diagram is for an American strat, but I don't have a 5 way selector. If this doesn't matter, (and I hate to ask this of you guys), can you edit that picture with the desired wiring for me? I know you already explained it and I'm pretty sure I know what you're saying, but as with many things, its sometimes easier to understand it visually. What are the "lugs"? When I looked at the volume pot, all the white wires coming from the pickups were soldered onto a single solder dot that was smack dab in the middle of the bottom pot. I also don't know how to ground something. I'm not very experienced in wiring strats (I've installed the pickups on a humbucker guitar and thats as far as I've gone) but I'm looking to learn, so if you don't mind teaching me as you explain how do this I'd appreciate that as well.

[Edited on 10/18/2007 by harrison1138]

 

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  posted on 10/18/2007 at 21:09,  Reply 7  
OK
The lugs are the terminals that the wires are soldered to, the dot of solder on the back of the pot is the ground.
I reckon that if you wire the pots like Brian said, you'll have your desired 3 volume set up

 

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  posted on 10/19/2007 at 19:21,  Reply 8  
Heres the wiring diagram for my strat:

http://www.fender.com/support/diagrams/pdf_temp1/stratocast er/0100122B/SD0100122BPg2.pdf

I'm left handed so yea...they just happened to have the one for the lefty...
Anyway, does the way this diagram look change anything?

I don't completely understand what Brian said. Canyou give me step by step list/how-to kind of thing? I know this probably a fairly simple mod, but I need it dumbed down, a lot...so like..a todler could read it. I apologize if its frustrating at all to try and explain to me, but I've never rewired a guitar before. I really appreciate you guys helping me out with this anyway.

[Edited on 10/20/2007 by harrison1138]

 

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  posted on 10/20/2007 at 16:54,  Reply 9  
Okay, I took a picture of my strat in its current state after I tried to follow your directions and I doctored it up with questions. Try to show me using the numbers where each wire should be going, oh and which lugs are which. Hope this makes it easier to explain.

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/2263/stratwiringrf0.jpg

 
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