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  posted on 12/28/2003 at 12:07 
If I am playing in the key of A minor and wanted to play a bit of the Lydian mode around one of the major chords in that scale say C should I technically play A Lydian or C lydian?

 

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  posted on 12/28/2003 at 12:45,  Reply 1  
C Lydian would be more appropriate being C major is relative to A minor but C lydian has a #4 interval

  • F Lydian would work better as it is the 4th mode in the C major scale.



Record a progression using the chords from C and practice playing leads using the C major scale. Notice when the chords change so do the modes......

There's many ways at looking at this

Hope this helps

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  posted on 12/28/2003 at 17:52,  Reply 2  
F Lydian and A minor are the same. Remember for the example I`m starting out in A minor.

 

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  posted on 12/28/2003 at 17:55,  Reply 3  
Should it be D Lydian?

 

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  posted on 12/28/2003 at 18:12,  Reply 4  
Use D Lydian if your playing in A major not minor. You said chords in the C. A minor and F Lydian share the same notes in the key of C but their steps patterns differ and so does their sound.


For example:

Am is the second chord in G so you can play a C lydian

Am is the third chord in F so you play a Bb Lydian

Am is the 6th chord in C so you play F Lydian and so on......



What chords are you playing around Am to tell what key your really in.....??????

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  posted on 12/28/2003 at 18:47,  Reply 5  
This is a simple but complicated question!

You say the key of Am

Well there's Relative minor which are the chords from C
C,Dm,Em,F,G, Am,B-7b5

Or the true A Minor Key

I
Minor

II
Diminished/Minor

III
Major/Augmented

IV
Minor/Major

V
Minor/Major

VI
Major/Diminished

VII
Major/Diminished

Which one...........




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  posted on 12/28/2003 at 19:18,  Reply 6  
I was speaking hypothetically . I do understand the different interval patterns and that F Lydian and A minor would be used differently I`m just unsure about the application.
Let me try asking this way.
If I was playing in a minor key -should I use the 4th of the relative major key and use Lydian to play over that chord?

 
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  posted on 12/28/2003 at 19:20,  Reply 7  
There are 13 chords in a minor key because on the 6th and 7th degrees of a minor key there are two alternative notes. This means that, apart from on the tonic (whose triad doesn't include the 6th or 7th degrees of the key), there are two alternative triads for each degree in the key's scale.

Chords In A Minor:

I
A Minor

II
Bdim or Bm

III
C or Caug

IV
Dm or D

V
Em or E

VI
F or Fdim

VII
G or Gdim

So your answer is yes you can play D Lydian

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  posted on 12/28/2003 at 20:20,  Reply 8  
Yep! That's it
 
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  posted on 12/28/2003 at 21:32,  Reply 9  
Awesome.Thanks for the info.I know it`s a frustrating thing to explain.

 

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