Enigmatic_minstrel
Second Lieutenant   Posts: 68 Registered: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline |
 posted on 5/7/2004 at 10:46, Reply 10 |
I think that is the problem I have with Hendrix. It seemed that he was
about to push out and go in the direction he really wanted to, (check out
the First Rays of the New rising sun album, which is fantastic) but he was
cut down before he had the chance to go there.
I feel that the songs he is best known for aren't really representative of
the kind of music Hendrix wanted to make. He was far more than the blues,
or "Hey Joe" or "purple haze".
Dammit, why could'nt he of hooked up with Miles Davis before he died/went
back to Mars!!!! ____________________
Cough cough jazz cough cough
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GuitarMuscle
Captain   Posts: 161 Registered: 5/4/2004 Status: Offline |
posted on 5/7/2004 at 10:51, Reply 11 |
If Hendrix was still here he wouldn't be as popular
You got to die to be really great.
Guitar Muscle 
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Telefreak
Moderator   Posts: 468 Registered: 1/12/2004 Status: Offline |
posted on 5/7/2004 at 20:51, Reply 12 |
quote:
However, like any great
guitarist, he took what had gone before and supercharged them, and fused
them into his own playing.
All great guitarists have a diversity of influences- thats what makes them
unique.
Thats my point entirely, thanks Enigmatic Minstrel.
How many guitarists can truly say that they have done that, there have been
no GREAT innovators since Hendrix, merely guitarists who can do Hendrix
faster than Hendrix. The genius has gone. Hendrix has left the building.
Just because you can play faster and more accurately than Hendrix, doesn't
make you better.
Steve Vai, although an amzing technical guitarist, can't write songs for
toffee, hence my original statement ____________________
Technology, not technique
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ricoboc
Moderator  Posts: 278 Registered: 4/27/2004 Status: Offline |
posted on 5/8/2004 at 01:31, Reply 13 |
You do realize Buddy Guy was playing almost the same style as Hendrix at
the same time...
And to be honest....I dont hear anyone trying to be like Hendrix these days
....maybe I listen to an entire different field of players....
Also , their have been many inovators....I dont recall Hendix finger
tapping....I dont recall Hendix sweeping arppegios...I dont recall Hendix
utilizing alternate picking....should I go on.....?
He was what he was...but the giutar did not start nor stop with
Hendrix...it will always evolve... 
[Edited on 5/8/2004 by ricoboc]
[Edited on 5/8/2004 by ricoboc]
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Enigmatic_minstrel
Second Lieutenant Posts: 68 Registered: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline |
 posted on 5/8/2004 at 04:49, Reply 14 |
While I don't agree that Steve Vai can't write, (I believe him to be the
last true innovator) I agree with Telefreak's point- most of the time,
modern guitarists do just speed up Hendrix licks.
Ricoboc, Jazz players have been using arpeggios for a long time, John
McLaughlin emerged at a similiar time to Hendrix and arguably pionneered
alternate picking. Malmsteen, Gilbert just speeded up everything, and stole
alot from Blackmore and YES.
Tapping was one true innovation, but everything in music is a development
on what has gone before.
[Edited on 8/5/2004 by Enigmatic_minstrel] ____________________
Cough cough jazz cough cough
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ricoboc
Moderator Posts: 278 Registered: 4/27/2004 Status: Offline |
posted on 5/8/2004 at 06:49, Reply 15 |
Exactly...Al DiMeola is my all time inspiration....Steve Morse and The
Dixie Dregs stuff...Steve Vai is also a huge inspiration....I feel FOR THE
LOVE OF GOD is a fine example of song writing....and it sure wasnt Hendix
inspired....
And that was exactly my point....The guitar did not start nor stop with
Hendrix....it will always evolve...
[Edited on 5/8/2004 by ricoboc]
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Enigmatic_minstrel
Second Lieutenant Posts: 68 Registered: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline |
posted on 5/8/2004 at 07:11, Reply 16 |
No-one disagrees with that, but we are arguing that some guitarists are
more significant in the process of that evolution. Hendrix, for whatever
abilities he had is the major influence for the majority of rock
guitarists. The reason people like Vai, Di Meola are so different is that
they didnt limit themselves to just Hendrix, much like Hendrix didnt limit
himself to just buddy guy.
Hendrix was the turning point in rock'n'roll guitar.
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Cough cough jazz cough cough
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ricoboc
Moderator Posts: 278 Registered: 4/27/2004 Status: Offline |
posted on 5/8/2004 at 07:21, Reply 17 |
That he was...no argument here.....thats why I gave him a high
ranking......
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ricoboc
Moderator Posts: 278 Registered: 4/27/2004 Status: Offline |
posted on 5/8/2004 at 07:25, Reply 18 |
Players such as VanHalen say they never listened to any rock guitar players
for inspiration ( At least not much) Eddie sites Blackmore as an influence
who inturn was influenced heavily by Jimmi...so the circle goes around.
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Enigmatic_minstrel
Second Lieutenant Posts: 68 Registered: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline |
posted on 5/8/2004 at 08:21, Reply 19 |
So basically everyone agrees with each other (kind of)!
Van Halen said in an interview that he learnt every Clapton solo when he
was young, and it was Van Halen that got Allan Holdsworth a record deal.
Van Halen also loved the band Ten Years After, covering some of their songs
when they were doing the pubs. Van Halen's Dad was a musician (some brass
instrument, I cant remember which one) so Eddie got those influences-
pretty varied, wouldnt you say!
Steve Vai is another- grew up on Hendrix and Jimmy Page, took lessons from
Satriani, got into Frank Zappa and Alice Cooper, went to Berkeley and
studied some Jazz theory, loves Wes Montgomery and Danny Gatton, and
listens to Prince. Also pretty varied, and he is another great player.
Moral of the story seems to be to listen to as much music as possible, and
to try and take everything that is useful from it. ____________________
Cough cough jazz cough cough
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