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Guitar101 - 6/9/2007 at 21:36 Just wondering how many of you guys or gals are recording by yourself
meaning drums,bass,"guitar of Course" vocals etc...
I record alot and have used drum machines but here lately the best method
is real audio loops and you can't tell that you don't have a real
drummer...Really... Check out Beta Monkey Music
http://www.betamonkeymusic.com/
I love their loops the best I heard yet. So all you need is a good computer
recording software " I like Cakewalk Sonar", some drum loops in the style
you like, a bass guitar, your guitar and maybe some vocals and your on your
way. Well I should mention you will need a decent computer with a good
sound card.
You will get some amazing results and noone will know since there's no
machines. I personally hate drum machines and everyone can tell it's a
machine. "Stiff Sounding" The great thing about using real audio drum loops
is you can cut, copy, and past the loops and write song after song without
losing focus working on everything but the guitar. Give it a shot and post
your songs here. I wrote 4 songs today without my band and the drummer is
amazed by the loops.
GuitarMuscle - 6/11/2007 at 20:55I checked out some of the sample loops at betamonkey and they sound
awesome, I have some acid rock loops I mess around with.
Bill15 - 8/8/2007 at 03:01You guys or anybody know where I can get free drum loops that you can
customize the tempo? I particularly need any rock drum beat at 76 bpm.
Thanks
Spidercents - 8/8/2007 at 03:58
Mixcraft 3 is free to try...it has real live drum loops however if you want
to share your music and put it in mp3 format you need to buy it...its
really cheap though.
Its a multitrack recording software with drum loops and bass loops.
Screenshot
http://1000watts.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=mr&action=
display&thread=1177038701
Sample of songs the songs I wrote using the real live drum loops...and yes
you can change the tempo of the loops.
http://travtale.dmusic.com/music/
bobdaigle - 8/23/2007 at 15:27Drum Loops are great, better than a drum machine
Bill15 - 8/23/2007 at 16:02Hey I downloaded and I'm within the trial period right now and it's great!
Just what I was looking for. I was wondering though, how do you guys
record guitar? I just ran a guitar to computer cable straight from the
emulated line out on my Marshal mg50dfx into the mic input and it sounds
pretty darn good for such a cheap setup.
[Edited on 8/23/2007 by Bill15]
bobdaigle - 8/23/2007 at 16:19Sometimes less is more. Send us some tunes when you get em done
[Edited on 25/8/2007 by moderator]
Spidercents - 8/23/2007 at 18:13quote: Hey I downloaded and I'm
within the trial period right now and it's great! Just what I was looking
for. I was wondering though, how do you guys record guitar? I just ran a
guitar to computer cable straight from the emulated line out on my Marshal
mg50dfx into the mic input and it sounds pretty darn good for such a cheap
setup.
[Edited on 8/23/2007 by Bill15]
I was wondering if you were refering to betamonkey or mixcraft3...just
wondering...wasnt sure which you were referring to because I have not tried
betamonkey as of yet.
As for a recording interface you could use an m audio fast track...or
firewire,Guitarport and the list goes on.
Lots of options for recording on the puter from your instrument...you could
go directly to puters sound card however there maybe latency issues and or
quality issues doing it that way.
[Edited on 8/23/2007 by Spidercents]
cncfuture - 8/24/2007 at 00:00Came across this great site for DRUM LOOPS
www.atlassoundlab.com
This site offers DIRECT DOWNLOADS if you have a PayPal account.
They also have a E-bay store they sell some of the disks a bit cheaper ...
(you can get to it from their main site.) They also have some FREEBIES!!
I got lucky when I ordered ... ASL offered me the entire collection to beta
test .... blows BetaMonkey away ... and A LOT CHEAPER check 'em out.
OH YEAH!
AND ... they offer "Custom" Drum TRACKS ... you send them your mix and they
throw some drums into it ... I had them do a track of mine ... blew me
away ... the communication through out the process was awesome!
Keep on jammin guys ...
Bill15 - 8/24/2007 at 00:04I was referring to mixcraft. But since I'm new to recording, I have two
more questions to throw at you:
1) I wanted to run my guitar through the line in jack on my pc but when I
did, sound only came out of the left speaker. You know anything about
this?
and
2) When recording a rhythm guitar track, to get that stereo sound (almost
as if there are two guitars), is one trick to copy the track and then
stagger it so that it's very slightly behind the original and then set one
to the left speaker and one to the right speaker? I thought they might have
done that in the Mixcraft 3 demo song that they give you when you first
intall it. I like the sound that they had going on that rhythm track there.
Spidercents - 8/24/2007 at 03:01
I usually double each track and pan each one on a seperate side...I double
the rhythm and lead guitar,keyboard and so on...just right click on the
track and copy then paste it where you want it.
Also when you pan each doubled track try and pan them at a different
percentage/color as to not mud up the mix.
I wouldnt stagger your tracks...just copy and pan on each side or record
each track twice live and use 2 different tracks to pan on each side...that
should give more of a stereo sound because each track will be a little bit
different if recorded twice.
Or you could record with 2 mics...I heard if placed in a certain postion
you can create stereo sound.
Try and keep vocals panned in the middle or pan them a bit to each side.
Bill15 - 8/24/2007 at 03:09Thanks for the reply. I just wanted to know, when you said, "Also when you
pan each doubled track try and pan them at a different percentage/color as
to not mud up the mix", do you mean pan other tracks at a different
percentage, such as rhythm guitar at 100 % to each side and keyboard at
say, 25% percent to each side? (btw, should the bass be mono?)
Spidercents - 8/24/2007 at 03:32Not sure about bass...I have not recorded bass however i would try it with
one track and pan in the middle and see how it sounds...I would also try
and double the track and pan on each side to hear the difference.
I wouldnt double the drum loops...just leave the drums in the middle.
pan each track in a different spot.
for instance
doubled tracks
Keyboard...pan left 25%
Keyboard...pan right 30%
Rhythm Guitar...pan left 100%
Rhythm Guitar...pan right 90%
Lead guitar...pan right 50%
Lead Guitar...pan left 70 %
not saying you have to use those percentages...use what sounds good for you
however try and have the tracks panned at a different percentage...even if
its only a difference of 1%...thats what I do right now anyway...I might
find a better way of doing it later on down the line however for now its
what im doing.
another trick for vocals is to use classic EQ on the track and remove the
lows in the track...click on edit next to EQ and turn the first 3 buttons
down in the middle.
[Edited on 8/24/2007 by Spidercents]
Spidercents - 8/24/2007 at 03:48Here is a screenshot of EQ settings for vocals if you plan on recording
vocals.
Click on pic to go to page with image and then click on image again to
enlarge.

Also add some compression to each vocal track...reverb can also be
added...you can also add light distortion (acoustica distortion) to your
vocals if needed
make sure your on the track tab and not the project tab when editing your
tracks.
use project tab to add effects to overall project.
[Edited on 8/24/2007 by Spidercents]
Bill15 - 8/24/2007 at 21:28quote:
I usually double each track and pan each one on a seperate side...I double
the rhythm and lead guitar,keyboard and so on...just right click on the
track and copy then paste it where you want it.
Also when you pan each doubled track try and pan them at a different
percentage/color as to not mud up the mix.
I wouldnt stagger your tracks...just copy and pan on each side or record
each track twice live and use 2 different tracks to pan on each side...that
should give more of a stereo sound because each track will be a little bit
different if recorded twice.
Or you could record with 2 mics...I heard if placed in a certain postion
you can create stereo sound.
Try and keep vocals panned in the middle or pan them a bit to each side.
Recording the same track twice and then panning each fully to one side
really produced a great stereo sound because like you said, each is a
little different. Thanks for the advice on that one.
[Edited on 8/24/2007 by Bill15]
Spidercents - 8/31/2007 at 14:58
Yeah recording same track twice and panning to each side is a nice little
trick Ive just learned recently...im sure it would work for vocals as well
however it would be tougher to match 2 vocals however it can be done.
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