Thread: Guitar Slinger...Slash
Forum: Guitar Slingers
Author: ricoboc
ricoboc - 5/19/2004 at 18:21

O.K

I jumped ahead....this one is posted by suggestion of Telefreak.
I dont have a lot to offer on "Slash".
Guns and Roses had their brief flash of glory....I always felt Slash could play...but he sounded like so many others that he never stood out for me.

I'll give him a rating of 3.5 as a player and song writer....

This should be interesting seeing what others think of Slash....

[Edited on 5/19/2004 by ricoboc]

[Edited on 7/2/2004 by ricoboc]


brian - 5/19/2004 at 19:51

Slash! he's ok but nothing to write home about. I him seen in CA. Slash and the snake pit I think it was called. He's has a great tone and some borrowed chops from the greats. he has the classic 80's setup using the JCM 800 same as the 2000 pretty much, with a Les Paul.

I give him 3.8 out of 5

This could get boring.

[Edited on 5/19/2004 by brian]


Enigmatic_minstrel - 5/19/2004 at 20:17

Isnt he Joe Perry with a hat on?


I can't add much either (this is goingto be fun). I never really got into guns'n'roses, despite owning all of their albums!

It seemed that for every good song they had, there would be 5 bad ones.

Still, at least Slash gave us an alternative to grunge, and dreadful bands like Nirvana. (sorry, I dont think lack of ability is ever cool).

In conclusion, I'd rank Slash with players like Zakk Wylde, Kirk Hammett, etc- good players but hyped because of their bands success.


Telefreak - 5/19/2004 at 21:34

Sounds fair. I don't rate him on his playing in G'nR', it's his blues playing that I like.
He's just formed another band with the bassist and original rhythm guitarist from g'n'r, I forget the name, probably the Axl Rose detesting society or something.
3/5


And you all thought I was gonna rave on about how great he is


retrospex - 5/19/2004 at 22:09

He got my vote just for "Mr. Brownstone" and the solo in "November Rain".Velvet Revolver is a rockin' band.I heard some bootleg cuts from a live show and it's heavy.


ricoboc - 5/19/2004 at 22:39

I heard a sound Bite from his new band....The lead singer from Stone Temple Piolts is fronting his band,....it sounded pretty darn good.......

I notice Slash uses a lot of triplets in his solos.....is this only me hearing this...? Or is this somewhat of a Slash signature lick...?


brian - 5/21/2004 at 23:48

Man this Slash thing is boring.....

Who wan'ts to do a Slash style lesson :whatman:

I would but I can't pinpoint too many signature licks,chords etc....


schwim - 5/22/2004 at 01:49

I'm surprised Wyland made it out of rehab long enough to front another band....

It's all about priorities boys...

json


ricoboc - 5/22/2004 at 05:01

Welcome To The Jungle contains what I preceive to be a sinature Slash lick..... the triplets man, the triplets....





[Edited on 5/22/2004 by ricoboc]

[Edited on 5/22/2004 by ricoboc]


Enigmatic_minstrel - 5/22/2004 at 08:00

I think Slash has signature poses rather than signature licks.

He's one of those guitarists that seem to get mentioned everywhere!

Wrote some nifty songs though.

Time to move on think... :whip:


Telefreak - 5/23/2004 at 23:07

I think it's more "signature top hat" than "signature licks"


ricoboc - 5/24/2004 at 02:29

This Velvet Revolver thing does sound good.....I have an article on there show at the Riv here in Chicago....I tried to post it but had problems.. After they played Mr. Brownstone and Used To Love Her the crowd stopped the show with chants of F#!@ Axel Rose....
Slash had to quiet everbody before the could continue....

[Edited on 5/24/2004 by ricoboc]


GuitarMuscle - 5/24/2004 at 12:47

The best post Eddie guitarist is Nuno Bettencourt of Extreme he kicks slashs A@#.


Remove the hat and the afro and what you got.
Another Perry,Walsh,Page wanna be


ricoboc - 5/25/2004 at 05:35

Nothing wrong with that, all are fine guitar players....


schwim - 5/27/2004 at 01:39

I like slash's playing, and have nothing against him, but I agree that Nuno would run rings around him. what a player! I catch myself clicking the back button everytime "Flight of the wounded bumblebee" comes on(right before He-man woman hater). That bit is incredibly impressive.


Anonymous - 6/13/2004 at 10:05

Well, Slash is one of world greatest guitarists, Have you forgotten Sweet Child O' Mine? It has the price of The world greatest guitar riff....

No one has a style like him, no one can controll the les paul`s the way he does, he`s the f#%%ing greatest... On the new song for Velvet Revolver, hear how he controls his feed back, he makes ****ing nice tones out of it, he`s special.... He was the 4. best guitar player in the world on the list...


schwim - 6/13/2004 at 19:12

This was the same all-encompassing and definitive list that included Kurt Cobain and Jack White, no?

Yes sir, I will take great stock in these people's opinions



json


VelvetRevolver14 - 7/3/2004 at 05:36

Have you ever actually heard jack white play when it wasnt a song of his? didnt think so. that guy can rip on his guitar. and kurt cobain was usally stoned when he played and he was still f****ing awsome. As for slash if you say he has no style or signature anything. you better take a look at any song of appetite for destruction and his new cd with velvet revolver(cant think of the cd title at the moment). I vote slash a 5 out of 5 and think he is one of the greatest guitar players in the world.

[Edited on 7/3/2004 by VelvetRevolver14]


schwim - 7/5/2004 at 02:27

Sir, I give you accolades.... not for your mastering of the written language... no sir, although it's deserved, this is not what it's all about here. For you, it's given for the passion that you reserve for two retarded guitar hacks that couldn't make a melody if Satan himself were shoving a chromatic tuner up each of their asses.

You sir have earned the stamp of approval:



The next time you're sitting around the fire with Jack "Lightning fingers" White and Kurt "the One man Virtuoso" Cobain, you tell them in my humble opinion, they should save their delicate fingers for their scorching leads and high impact melodies...

thanks,
json


VelvetRevolver14 - 7/5/2004 at 04:48

.... you are retarded, when you get a succesful band and you are considered better then tham all i will agree but untill then just shutup

[Edited on 12/21/1988 by VelvetRevolver14]


GnR_16x - 7/5/2004 at 05:35

Now now children no need to fight about it...lets just all agree that Slash, Kirk Hammett, Kurt Cobain, and Jack White are the best and move on with our lives, eh!


GnR_16x - 7/5/2004 at 05:38

Oh yeah.....don'd forget to add Eddie Van Halen to that list of mine, eh!


schwim - 7/5/2004 at 11:48

quote:
.... you are retarded, when you get a succesful band and you are considered better then tham all i will agree but untill then just shutup

[Edited on 12/21/1988 by VelvetRevolver14]


Sir,

Now you're just showing off your linguistical prowess. I'm jealous of your ability to mold words and bend them to your every whim.

Even the masterful Mr. White and Cobain could learn something from you, good sir.



thanks,
json


Telefreak - 7/5/2004 at 22:10

Play nicely children, bickering and name calling will not be tollerated.
Jack white is a rhythm player, his lead work leaves alot to be desired, the same is also true of Kurt Cobain, Cobain even admitted it himself.

*puts on flame proof suit and stands well back*

Just remember who the moderators are :giggly:


schwim - 7/5/2004 at 22:23

I don't see any bickering... I made my case and my eloquent friend here called me retarded and told me to shut up. Clearly both are strong cases for earnest debate while striving to stay above the belt.

As for the moderator comment, that's totally unfair. Everyone at this forum is a moderator, I think, aside from myself.

thanks,
json


Telefreak - 7/6/2004 at 00:32

quote:
I don't see any bickering... I made my case and my eloquent friend here called me retarded and told me to shut up. Clearly both are strong cases for earnest debate while striving to stay above the belt.


thanks,
json


Hehe, and you didn't provoke him at all :giggly:


schwim - 7/6/2004 at 01:42

well sir, I don't have to mention the fact that you've stated the obvious, but in this case, I'm appreciative that someone other than myself brought to light that I indeed did not have sex with this woman.... oh, wrong speech.... just a sec....

did not provoke anyone!

thanks,
json


GnR_16x - 7/6/2004 at 04:54

You've got a point...that guy was pretty rude to you...all you were doing was arguing about stuff you obviousdly know nothing about...totally uncalled for, his comments were!


schwim - 7/6/2004 at 04:58

exactly good sir, just as in the same way that you're showing your complete ignorance to basic discussion by your post! I knew someone would come to my aid to help explain it!

you're the best,
json


VelvetRevolver14 - 7/6/2004 at 05:04

hahahaha
this isnt about linguistics, its about guitars and in this case guitarists so your comments are eally irrelevant to the forum


GnR_16x - 7/6/2004 at 05:07

I'm ignorant...this coming from the guy whois talking about linguistics skills, which you lack, on a guitar forum. Its easy to see that you are driving the conversation away from the fact that you know nothing about guitars or guitarists.


schwim - 7/6/2004 at 05:10

You're having problems following the big words, aren't you 14? Don't be afraid to admit it, as that's the only possible reason for your latest incoherent post.

IRT 16, I'm glad you can finally admit it. We're well on our way to resolving the issue now.


IRT swaying the topic. I posted my thoughts on it in this thread over a month ago. If you need help figuring out the order of the posts, just let me know.

thanks,
json


VelvetRevolver14 - 7/6/2004 at 05:13

what is exactly your opinion on slash's guitar playing
judgeing by your posts i take it you dont like it. if so why?


schwim - 7/6/2004 at 05:18

I've always loved Slash's playing(as I've previously stated), and have nothing against the man. I've not been to impressed with the groups as a whole that he's created or been part of since Gn'R, but we're not here for the bands.

I don't agree with a lot of people who state that he plays other's chops. He's got soul, which is what makes a lead player a lead player. His technical ability is astounding, even if he does borrow some material. He also seems like a down to earth guy which is a plus in my book.

thanks,
json


chrisC - 7/30/2004 at 20:10

i give slash a 3.5 he a real good guitarist plus he has the coolest nickname ever


tattoo - 7/31/2004 at 21:43

Well, Slash is not on my Top 100. He's just another MTV guitarist from the late 80's early 90's. He can play just not enough to turn my head.

He will leave his mark more from his name and that Jimmy Page,Joe Perry stance.

Ok send me your hate mail I love it.


Spidercents - 8/1/2004 at 18:53

You cant talk about slash without bringing up the rest of the band because its a reflection on him.Their albums are their baby's.

I like 3 or 4 songs off the the first album.I liked one off the second album.I liked about 3 or 4 more songs off the rest of there albums combined.In all I liked around 10 songs from this band/guitarist.I'm not sure 10 songs constitutes greatness.The guitar solo in sweet child and welcome to the jungle are cool.patience is a pretty cool acoustic thang.Civil war was a good tune.Axel rose sounds like catherne Hepburn having a parkenson attack.(no offence to any one who has this disease)I saw them live when they were starting out and they opened for Iron madien.They sucked live.There sound was muddy and hard to pick out each instrument.It must of changed since then seeing they could buy better equipment now.I dont think you can say that slash sucks or not.However you can judge the highlights and lowlights of their carreer and come up with a sum total.First album and second album Id give him a 7 out of 10.The rest of their records I would give a 4 to 6 out of 10.All axel did when I seen him live is call everyone in the arena a f" "ing Ass" "e.Lets face it, thats what this guy is regardless of his talent or lack there of.Axel not slash.Slash is laid back and seems like a cool enough guy.Someone should beat the s" "t out of axel because he needs it.He needs it big time.What a loser.He just dosent get it.


chrisC - 8/2/2004 at 03:08

just so you know i was giving slash a 3.5 out of 5 on his abilities his dedication to his music deserves a 5 out of 5 (if you saw the behind the music on vh1 one of the 45747 times it palyed you would undersatnd why) and id give him a 3 on his ability to write good riffs.so iguess over all hes like a 4 which is good. yeah sweet child of mine was a great song and he had probably another 4 good ones but after that they suck. my frined bought the greatest hits album because hes a huge fan, and i could really only listen to 4 songs.


Spidercents - 8/2/2004 at 03:52

chris I pretty much feel the same except suck is to strong of a word.Their records dont suck.They are just not great.Not good enough to buy.Dont piss off the guns and roses crowd.Their first album and one song off the second was good.They lost me after that except for a few songs.Instead of writing a thousand songs they should of concentrated on 10 at a time.Or 1 at a time.Even the lead guitar off of the illusion records dosent feal finished to me.I still say when I seen them live they sucked.So maybe your right.I dont want to say their albums suck.However they are kind of boring.


VelvetRevolver14 - 8/3/2004 at 01:42

you cant say that he isnt great cause yuo only like 10 G'N'R songs. He can play great and like the ninja turtles guy said has graet dedication, i saw the much more music bio on Guns N Roses. ive liked everyband hes played in and his recent band Velvet Revolver is amazing. Axl at the moment is trying to release another GNR record using new band members but without slash or duff mackagan(dont think its spelt right), it wont be the same or even close to as good as the origional(again not spelt right). i give Slash a 5 out of 5.


Spidercents - 8/4/2004 at 18:26

Slash is a good to great guitar player.The first two albums were good or parts of them anyway.Its there song choices and the amount of songs they were pumping out after that that lost me.Strike while the irons hot I guess.Nobody will question his dedication.Ninja guy or ChrisC thinks there albums suck after the first two (I think).I said They dont suck they just werent great and seamed a little rushed and not fully complete.The lead guitar could of used more time to make them great.When I seen them live starting out opening for Iron madien they sucked because I couldnt pick out the instruments and the sound was muddy.I also said that they probably improved their sound later on being able to buy the best equipment and not playing second fiddle to other bands.(being an opening act)I learned how to play everthing off of the first two albums that I liked and had fun doing it.It was fun playing those songs along with the record.Thats all I wanted to say.


wannabe1 - 7/4/2005 at 16:52

Hey guys, I'm a little late on this post but I have to say, I think slashs playing on appitite for destruction is great. His playing is what planted the guitar bug in me long ago.
4 out of five, cause hey nobodys perfect

just my two cents
cheers
Brian


ricoboc - 7/8/2005 at 00:58

O.K, It's been awhile since i've posted in this forum. I read all the previous replies. My, Oh my! This topic really started to move in the wrong direction.

Slash has a jazz tune floating around the air waves. I hear it every now and then on 95.5 the smooth jazz station here in Chicago.

Vevel Revolver has BLOWN UP since this thread began. I think that says something about dedication to ones craft. Making it big once is hard enough, but twice! Thats amazing.

As I stated earlier, I feel Slash can play, but he sounds like so many others. Kodo's to his new found sucess. Slash will enventually end up in The Rock-N-Roll hall of fame.






[Edited on 7/8/2005 by ricoboc]


adamhrock - 7/10/2005 at 16:02

this is complete bull****.....slash is a great musician and if you love music and/or guitar you should have respect for him...i saw guns & roses over 10 years ago and velvet revolver a few months ago....and he is better than he ever was (especially since he has cut down on the drinkin)...anyways, if any of us were half the musician he is we wouldn't be sitting here debating it. i'd like to hear anyone write a better ****in portfolio of material than slash.....november rain, sweet child, paradise city and the list goes on and on.....i don't have to defend him...the work speaks for itself. and as far as recycling other peoples ideas...who doesnt?


adamhrock - 7/10/2005 at 16:05

ps jack white can eat my jack's white....go home and practice loser


Spidercents - 7/10/2005 at 20:19

quote:
this is complete bull****.....slash is a great musician and if you love music and/or guitar you should have respect for him...i saw guns & roses over 10 years ago and velvet revolver a few months ago....and he is better than he ever was (especially since he has cut down on the drinkin)...anyways, if any of us were half the musician he is we wouldn't be sitting here debating it. i'd like to hear anyone write a better ****in portfolio of material than slash.....november rain, sweet child, paradise city and the list goes on and on.....i don't have to defend him...the work speaks for itself. and as far as recycling other peoples ideas...who doesnt?


I like slash...he is a good guitarists however alot of his playing sounds the same to me...some would say thats a style and a good thing which it is however lets not lose focus.

Slash plays power chords and that aint hard...some of his lead guitar is awesome and some of it just sounds the same to me.

Please remember that there were other members of the band and you cant account slashes power chords as writing the whole song.

Lyrics and melody are what makes a song and the last time I looked slash didnt sing.

Thats all I wanted to say...I think slash is good however I have not liked much of his lead guitar since the first album...november rains lead is ok...its sounds like everything else he does...Im not saying thats good or bad...Its just the truth


adamhrock - 7/11/2005 at 20:57



I like slash...he is a good guitarists however alot of his playing sounds the same to me...some would say thats a style and a good thing which it is however lets not lose focus.

Slash plays power chords and that aint hard...some of his lead guitar is awesome and some of it just sounds the same to me.

Please remember that there were other members of the band and you cant account slashes power chords as writing the whole song.

Lyrics and melody are what makes a song and the last time I looked slash didnt sing.




hey buddy, slash does backups live(as does everyone else in velvet revolver), make sure you get your facts straight.


Spidercents - 7/11/2005 at 21:38


He sings backup...he didnt write the melodies of the song...Im still right.


adamhrock - 7/12/2005 at 20:13

quote:

He sings backup...he didnt write the melodies of the song...Im still right.




wow!!! another stereotypical ignorant bastard who can't admit when he is incorrect....why don't you go to your local guitar store and tell everyone there how much slash sucks chet.


Spidercents - 7/12/2005 at 20:20



I can admit I was wrong about him singing...hes sings backup...ok...thats not the point i was really trying to make...I was saying he didnt write the lyrics and or melodies...he played the power chords for the guy who made it a song with lyrics and melody.

I never said slash sucks...?

There is no need to bash people to make your point...Relax.


ricoboc - 7/13/2005 at 22:16

We all know the phrase "Opinions are like ***, we all have one."

I wish everyone would keep that in mind. There is no need for personal attacks on any thread here. This forum is meant for fun discussion, not rude bashing.


FireFret - 7/14/2005 at 05:54

I have to agree there. All this "my opinion, your opinion" crap is really starting to eritate me. My god! We're supposed to be musicians here. If we can't keep our heads out of our ***es over stupid childish stuff like that, what's that look like to the rest of us? Figure it out.

Now back to the subject: I've go t a lot of respect for Slash's music (singing and/or playing). Yes, at a lot of the times his solos sound unoriginal, but he's also been some of the inspiration for a lot of my music (mostly his power ballads). Not just his music but also his stage-presence. He's got this kick all *** atitude that rocks. If you watch any of his videos, he's always leanin' back with that top-hat of his and a sigarette in his mouth. Just screams rock-&-roll.

[Edited on 7/14/2005 by FireFret]


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