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brian - 5/4/2004 at 06:00 Thanks to Ricoboc for this great idea.
He will be our newest Forum Mod in this forum so give him a warm
welcome.
Try to keep this forum nice and clean so people can learn. Some of the
lessons in this forum will make it on the main page under Guitar Styles so
try to make them professional as possible.
Ok I will start it off...... Let's do the king jimi hendrix first...
I can cheat a little beacause I have already did a couple guitar style
lesson on Hendrix.
Check them out here:
Part 1.
http://www.theguitarfiles.com/guitarfile65.html
Part2.
http://www.theguitarfiles.com/guitarfile68.html
Hendrix Chord Changes
http://www.theguitarfiles.com/guitarfile47.html
Read his bio here
http://www.theguitarfiles.com/guitarfile8.html
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ricoboc - 5/4/2004 at 07:29Should we stick with one player for the entire week...?
Also lets talk about style and get opinions....not just lessons.
Lets rate the players we discuss....say on a scale of 1 - 5...
I seen a forum on Jimmi already...I hope we arent all Jimmied out....If I
was to rate Jimmi by todays standards I couldnt give him high marks....but
as for what he has done...opened the door for all the feed back
crazies...showed us an entire new way of approching the guitar.....I give
him 4 1/2 stars.......
I believe we all know his styles of playing......so I wont get into
that......
brian - 5/4/2004 at 13:51Yeah maybe one guitarist every two weeks or possibly a month. This will
allow enough time to really describe their style and have some lessons
etc...
I would rate Jimi Hendrix overall as a #4.5 out of 5.
This guy had it all... The right tone,the right notes at the right time
and best of all he was just plain creative.
He was a little sloppy at times but this just added to his show on
stage.
He also had awesome feel and some great signature guitar licks....
Listen to the beginning solo of All Along The Watchtower.....
This gives me the chills everytime I hear it. He's got the fuzzface maxed
out along with his Marshall Plexis.....
Tune down a 1/2 step
Intro: All Along the Watchtower:
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|------------12------|----*--*--*--*--------*-----------------|
|----(4)---13--------|---14-14-14-14-------14-(14)-12---------|
|---------/----------|-------------------------------11-/-13--|
|--------------------|----------------------------------------|
|--------------------|----------------------------------------|
|--------------------|----------------------------------------|
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---------------------------------|---*---------*-----------------------|
---------------------------------|--11---11---11--------11-(11)--9-----|
-11---11---11---11-\------9--11--|---------------------------------11--|
---------------------/11---------|-------------------------------------|
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There must be...
----____-----*------------*------|------------------------------------|-
----11/9----12------------12\----|--------------____------------------|-
---------9-------------------\---|--------------11/9------------------|-
------------------------------\--|-------------------9----------------|-
---------------------------------|----11-----------------9--9---7--7--|-
---------------------------------|--9---------------------------------|-
As you can see he loves the Blues Pentatonic scales.......
How would you rate Hendrix?
UMMMMMM Telefreak UMMMMMM GuitarSuccess Cough Cough...
Enigmatic_minstrel - 5/6/2004 at 22:11I'm actually one of the few that isnt a fan of hendrix's blues playing.
I much prefer his crazy experimental jazzy acid rock! Which is much of the
stuff on electric Ladyland. But then thats the fusion fan in me talking.
I think he gave energy to the electric guitar more than anything. Where as
Clapton was head down, drifting slow solos, Hendrix added that fire,
experimental quality.
I just wish he had the chance to jam with Miles Davis, because I think they
were headed in the same direction, and that would have made some seriously
intense music.
Hendrix, great blues guitarist? Nah.
first jazz rock genius? yup
Just my
opinion (but its right )
Telefreak - 5/6/2004 at 22:31ricoboc, you say that you don't rate Hendrix by todays standards, but where
would todays guitarists be without him?
He grabbed rock by the crotch, dragged it down a dark alley way, and kicked
the crap out of it.
He changed it forever
Guitar101 - 5/6/2004 at 22:35Hendrix is still the most creative guitarist to date.......
Others just followed...copied........
retrospex - 5/7/2004 at 03:51Strats through cranked Marshalls..I believe he was one of the first to do
this..."Wind Cries Mary"...oh so good
ricoboc - 5/7/2004 at 06:40Telefreak,
I gave Hendrix 4.5 because he did open the doors for all to walk through. I
stand by what I said. Hendrix falls short by todays standards.
Not everyone followed the Hendrix path...many 90,s players were inspired by
classical music "Nicoli Paganini " Violin virtuoso...Malmsteen copped his
chops and so did many others....
Hendix was an innovator....I I did give him credit.....
Many of 90's players tried to stay as far from blues based rock as they
could and beat a new path....
Ala sweeping arpeggios...which you would never hear in a Hendrix song...
He was what he was....I say lets move on.....
O.K I put on my padding....have at me..... :gunman:
:gunman: :gunman: :gunman: :gunman: :gunman: :gunman: :gunman:
Enigmatic_minstrel - 5/7/2004 at 07:42I like Telefreak's idea of Hendrix the East End Bruiser boy. "Oi rock! I'm
gonna nut ya mate! HAVE IT"
But if you do want proof of Hendrix's importance, check out every year's G3
concert, they always finish by jamming at least one hendrix song, even
Yngwie!
Hendrix was one of the first to embrace new technology, and experiment with
new sounds.
While I'm not sure how much of his playing and licks were strictly
original, (T-Bone walker was doing the behind the head, playing with tongue
while drinking a pint stunts before Hendrix), Wes Montgomery obviously
inspired his octaves and chordal work, and Clapton's bluesbreakers album
came out before Are you experienced.
However, like any great guitarist, he took what had gone before and
supercharged them, and fused them into his own playing.
All great guitarists have a diversity of influences- thats what makes them
unique.
But I still think he sucks as a blues player :praying:
brian - 5/7/2004 at 13:43Keep in mind everything Hendrix did was in a 4 year period....
He came from Mars messed with our heads and went away.........
Enigmatic_minstrel - 5/7/2004 at 14:46I think that is the problem I have with Hendrix. It seemed that he was
about to push out and go in the direction he really wanted to, (check out
the First Rays of the New rising sun album, which is fantastic) but he was
cut down before he had the chance to go there.
I feel that the songs he is best known for aren't really representative of
the kind of music Hendrix wanted to make. He was far more than the blues,
or "Hey Joe" or "purple haze".
Dammit, why could'nt he of hooked up with Miles Davis before he died/went
back to Mars!!!!
GuitarMuscle - 5/7/2004 at 14:51If Hendrix was still here he wouldn't be as popular
You got to die to be really great.
Guitar Muscle
Telefreak - 5/8/2004 at 00:51 quote: However, like any great
guitarist, he took what had gone before and supercharged them, and fused
them into his own playing.
All great guitarists have a diversity of influences- thats what makes them
unique.
Thats my point entirely, thanks Enigmatic Minstrel.
How many guitarists can truly say that they have done that, there have been
no GREAT innovators since Hendrix, merely guitarists who can do Hendrix
faster than Hendrix. The genius has gone. Hendrix has left the building.
Just because you can play faster and more accurately than Hendrix, doesn't
make you better.
Steve Vai, although an amzing technical guitarist, can't write songs for
toffee, hence my original statement
ricoboc - 5/8/2004 at 05:31You do realize Buddy Guy was playing almost the same style as Hendrix at
the same time...
And to be honest....I dont hear anyone trying to be like Hendrix these days
....maybe I listen to an entire different field of players....
Also , their have been many inovators....I dont recall Hendix finger
tapping....I dont recall Hendix sweeping arppegios...I dont recall Hendix
utilizing alternate picking....should I go on.....?
He was what he was...but the giutar did not start nor stop with
Hendrix...it will always evolve...
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Enigmatic_minstrel - 5/8/2004 at 08:49While I don't agree that Steve Vai can't write, (I believe him to be the
last true innovator) I agree with Telefreak's point- most of the time,
modern guitarists do just speed up Hendrix licks.
Ricoboc, Jazz players have been using arpeggios for a long time, John
McLaughlin emerged at a similiar time to Hendrix and arguably pionneered
alternate picking. Malmsteen, Gilbert just speeded up everything, and stole
alot from Blackmore and YES.
Tapping was one true innovation, but everything in music is a development
on what has gone before.
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ricoboc - 5/8/2004 at 10:49Exactly...Al DiMeola is my all time inspiration....Steve Morse and The
Dixie Dregs stuff...Steve Vai is also a huge inspiration....I feel FOR THE
LOVE OF GOD is a fine example of song writing....and it sure wasnt Hendix
inspired....
And that was exactly my point....The guitar did not start nor stop with
Hendrix....it will always evolve...
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Enigmatic_minstrel - 5/8/2004 at 11:11No-one disagrees with that, but we are arguing that some guitarists are
more significant in the process of that evolution. Hendrix, for whatever
abilities he had is the major influence for the majority of rock
guitarists. The reason people like Vai, Di Meola are so different is that
they didnt limit themselves to just Hendrix, much like Hendrix didnt limit
himself to just buddy guy.
Hendrix was the turning point in rock'n'roll guitar.
ricoboc - 5/8/2004 at 11:21That he was...no argument here.....thats why I gave him a high
ranking......
ricoboc - 5/8/2004 at 11:25Players such as VanHalen say they never listened to any rock guitar players
for inspiration ( At least not much) Eddie sites Blackmore as an influence
who inturn was influenced heavily by Jimmi...so the circle goes around.
Enigmatic_minstrel - 5/8/2004 at 12:21So basically everyone agrees with each other (kind of)!
Van Halen said in an interview that he learnt every Clapton solo when he
was young, and it was Van Halen that got Allan Holdsworth a record deal.
Van Halen also loved the band Ten Years After, covering some of their songs
when they were doing the pubs. Van Halen's Dad was a musician (some brass
instrument, I cant remember which one) so Eddie got those influences-
pretty varied, wouldnt you say!
Steve Vai is another- grew up on Hendrix and Jimmy Page, took lessons from
Satriani, got into Frank Zappa and Alice Cooper, went to Berkeley and
studied some Jazz theory, loves Wes Montgomery and Danny Gatton, and
listens to Prince. Also pretty varied, and he is another great player.
Moral of the story seems to be to listen to as much music as possible, and
to try and take everything that is useful from it.
ricoboc - 5/8/2004 at 20:26I truly believe Eddie was the second turnning point.....playing really took
a shift after Eddie arrived....as far as rock guitar goes...
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DoubleTrouble - 7/2/2006 at 21:52 SRV JIMI
ROCKS
Jimi Hendrix is alot like SRV I like both of there music.
tattoo - 7/10/2006 at 01:07 Jimi Hendrix is alot like SRV I like both of there music.
You mean SRV is alot like Hendrix. Ummmm
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