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RedHotChiliPepper - 9/13/2004 at 21:49 Well we all know some guitarists who are overrated...so how about some who
are underrated, and not given enough credit where it's due? :rockout:
I'd say John Frusciante of the Red Hot Chili Peppers and Mike Einziger of
Incubus.
tattoo - 9/13/2004 at 23:46I would say myself
Kidding!
Really I can't think of any right now
Jdx - 9/14/2004 at 00:04 Jimi Hendrix. Why? Because he can simply never be rated high enough. His
recorded output and influence in such a short period of time is utterly
amazing still.
Other than that I would say David Grissom. He's played with John
Mayhall, John Mellencamp, was a member of the highly underrated Austin
bluesrock outfit Storyville, and the lead guitarist/band leader on the
Dixie Chicks last stadium tour. Really like his style/tone and seems few
people know him.
schwim - 9/14/2004 at 03:19quote: I'd say John Frusciante
of the Red Hot Chili Peppers....
For sure... John plays some amazing guitar.
thanks,
json
Spidercents - 9/14/2004 at 16:19Malcum young...Its tough to pick one.
Courtney - 9/15/2004 at 08:44Definitely Dave Navarro. Superb guitarist.
kickinits7 - 9/17/2004 at 04:15I defenitely agree with Jimi hendrix and John Frusciante, Johns a great
guitarist, but I never see him ranked anywhere above 100 on guitar lists.
I never liked navarros style of playing.
Ozboy - 9/17/2004 at 12:14I like The Edge. I think I like his ability to change style. He has to
think in Rythm and Lead when he writes I think this is very hard to do. But
the answer to this question is actually easy. It is the guitatrist who made
you take up the guitar. Sambora, Satriani, Hendrix, Slash or The Edge it
dosent matter it is there influence on us that is. I also like Hank Marvin
(The Shaddows) too. He always looks like he is enjoying playing
Spidercents - 9/17/2004 at 14:36Sounds good to me
RedHotChiliPepper - 9/24/2004 at 01:44Joe Satriani is pretty underrated too. He's an amazing player, but I never
hear people talking about him.
Some of the tracks off his anthology album are mindblowing. Absolutely
crazy.
chrisC - 9/24/2004 at 20:24jade puget of afi and quinn allman of the used
JohnL - 9/25/2004 at 02:14George Harrison, Paul Simon......Paul Maccartney? (Im gonna get challenged
on that one arn't I).
ziggy_stardust - 9/25/2004 at 07:56ummm ok n00by kiddys heres some REAL guitarists /aka musicians/ youve most
likely never heard of,try actually listening to something other than what
you read about in tiger beat or seventeen or wtf ever you are
"reading"(marvel comics?)
1 roy buchanan
2 will ray
3 glen campbell
4 andrew york
5 allan holdsworth
6 jan akkerman
7 mick rogers
i could go on....
Spidercents - 9/25/2004 at 21:56Ive heard of Glen campell and allan holdsworth...I dont care for them...I
just dont understand why you have to insult everyone to make your
point.What the hell is tiger beat?Why are you talking about Marvel
comics?What are you talking about.What is Ummm ok n00by kiddys?.There is no
fighting in this forum so I would clean things up please...No insults.
JohnL - 9/26/2004 at 00:32Wow your super cool because you like people and bands that nobody has heard
of. That kind of bugs me when people try to be underground when they really
dont like it all that much. You try to look cool by saying we all like the
kind of music we do because we are being forcefed by the media. you suck,
go to another forum if you are going to be like. Enough said.
P.s is "N00by" suppose to stand for Newbie? If it is then wow.
[Edited on 28/9/2004 by JohnL]
RedHotChiliPepper - 9/26/2004 at 04:33Wow you listen to bands no one has heard of...does that make you wonderful
and "nonconformist" or something?
Quit dissing and just give an opinion. Thats all we want to hear.
Arch - 9/27/2004 at 12:11i wouldnt say satriani is underrated, he has his own section in total
guitar magazine! really good lessons on technique and improvement. but
yeah, he inspired me to learn after saying i would years before, first time
i heard surfin with the alien i thought 'holy sh#t'! i got that album and
then i realized just how good he is at taking a certain mood and making a
matching song out of it (anyone heard love thing? you'll know what i mean)
personally i think he's the greatest ever, even better than jimi, but i
guess it's a matter of opinion. keep it chilled x
Spidercents - 9/27/2004 at 17:24Where is ziggy stardust...Ground control to major tom...there's something
wrong can you here me major tom.
vanstuben - 9/27/2004 at 22:00I think that John Frusciante sucks. He is a horrible player. I think hes
totally overated. Plus hes a loser heroin addict. Dave Navarro sucks too.
Hello..anybody heard of Dave Mustaine(megadeth)??? Hes the best guitarist
around and he invented thrash metal as well and he mixed it with jazz and
progressive in the early 90's. Hes the most underrated guitar player out
there. Satriani is good but hes a show-off. Hendrix is sorta good too.
Frusciante is the worst guitar I have ever heard.
Spidercents - 9/27/2004 at 22:25Thats the thing about guitar players or music in general...Its
subjective...I think dave mustaine sucks...and wasnt he an addicted loser
at one time also...All though I wouldnt equate having an addiction as being
a loser...The person just screwed up thats all...Im not a big Frusciante or
a Navarro fan...I guess what Im saying is it is all personal preference.I
always thought dave mustaine was trying to look and act tough and his music
was kind of a joke to me...He dosent look tough thats for sure...Thats my
opinion...Not trying to start a fight or anything...Its just what I
think...And that dosent mean much.
JohnL - 9/27/2004 at 23:24Why has Mustaine been on every guitar magazine cover for like the past 3
months? Its getting annoying.
[Edited on 27/9/2004 by JohnL]
schwim - 9/28/2004 at 03:45Last I heard, Dave did a melt-down on his arm, and I watched all of his
guitars sell on eBay. Bid on a couple, but went way over what my piggy
bank could crap.
And I just want to say that Mr. Stardust is really really REALLY cool.
Really. Seriously. not kidding. I'm truly in awe of his individuality.
Although I hear that his fingers smell like poop, and he doesn't like
pie.
thanks,
json
ziggy_stardust - 9/28/2004 at 03:49lol
http://www.janakkerman.nl/samples/Bonn91_Streetwalker.mp3
a>
sigh...
please learn more about music and less about "heros"
ty
btw,jimi hendrix was a fantastic musician(aka artist) because he wasnt
afraid to be himself,especially musically and he never ran with the
pack,unlike all of you.BE CREATIVE,DONT BE AFRAID TRY LISTENING TO SOME
STUFF/PEOPLE YOUVE NEVER HEARD OF IF YOU WANT TO HEAR SOME AWESOME
GUITARISTS AND BROADEN YOUR(evidently)NARROW MINDS!hendrixs most important
attribute was his creativity,cause there have been plenty who could play
crazy scales and crap all around him,but none ive heard who even come close
to his originality. it aint about anything but art,if it is youre just a
punk...werd up b :study:
Spidercents - 9/28/2004 at 17:28Hendrixs live playing wasnt that great in my mind...However his studio
recordings are done very well...I think the producers had a lot to do with
jimmys success...People think hendrix invented the backwards guitar however
in all reality it was the studio guys behind the recording equipment that
started that.Jimmy's live work makes me cringe sometimes.
willy - 9/28/2004 at 19:30Ziggy, I can tell you as a fellow forum "n00by" that this is a real warm
and fuzzy, let's hold hands and sing "We Are The World" site. My
unsolicited advice: stop the preaching. There are some informed thoughtful
people here. I thought your post was (minus the muso b*tch attitude)
valid. The problem is that your point will be lost on those reacting to
that attitude, not content. JohnL, for example, commented on how the
"bands" you mentioned (you didn't) were "underground" (none of the
guitarists you mentioned were). Jan Akkerman's solo on Focus' only US hit
"Hocus Pocus", (an amazing piece) pre-dates shred by almost 2 decades,
however; the "kiddys" on this site won't check it out. They'll be too busy
posting about what a pretentious a**hole you sound like. And art? Well, I
took up guitar cuz it made cool noises and helped me get laid. Now its
relaxing after a long day at work and I play mainly for (God forbid) fun!
If that makes me a punk... Oh, and one more thing Zig: since we're on the
most underrated guitarists thread, how did you, of all people, forget to
mention the late (I'm making the sign of the cross) 70's glam god Mick
Ronson?
schwim - 9/28/2004 at 22:40Ziggy,
We'll learn more about artists and musicians if you'll learn more about
properly utilising hyperlinks.
thanks,
json
JohnL - 9/28/2004 at 23:18willy - JohnL, for example, commented on how the "bands" you mentioned (you
didn't) were "underground" (none of the guitarists you mentioned were).
What you talking about willy? I did not specifically aim that at him
i amied it other people as well. I knew he was talking about guitarists and
i meant people in general and im sure you know some as well. I guess my
"your guitarist suck' may have been a little over the top due to the fact
that it was said becausehe was being a wanker. But I stand by the rest. I
dont really care what kind of guitarists you like but you had to insult
everyone so you could try to feel cool, like you were on a higher level and
that was uncool.
Spidercents - 9/29/2004 at 00:19yes it is uncool...and so is Glen campbell...lol...Ziggy says"It aint about
anything but art,if it is your just a punk"... I think people who are rude
are punks...
ziggy_stardust - 9/29/2004 at 02:15wah!
you all remind me of the big bullies who used to beat me up all the
time.im fragile so please dont be such meanies!
have you ever heard of the phrase"dont shoot the messenger"?
i guess i should leave you all in your blissful ignorance,forever thinking
that your lame ideas and non objective and uninformed opinions matter.im
sorry if i spoiled your idylic dreamchat land but theres a reality to being
a musican par excellence,who just happens to be a guitarist.
i could care less what you like and what you dont like,your opinions are
mostly as i said,uniformed and they will continue to remain that way
probably because you(all) are (as i said in an earlier post) narrow
minded.
additionally,glen campbell is probably one of the best guitarists on the
planet as well as a very technically knowledgeable MUSICIAN!,cool or
not.you know,prokofievs music isnt really cool,but it IS important,relevant
musically,and it will be listened to and respected by the musical
cognescentti A LONG TIME after megadeath and nirvana and such typical
mainstream dungpiles are LONG FORGOTTEN.
FRANK ZAPPA!
STEVE LUKATHER!
STEVE MORSE!
JOHNNIE WINTER!
SKUNK BAXTER!
listen,learn,be humble
Spidercents - 9/29/2004 at 03:06See here is the thing ziggy...I have nothing against you
personally...However Frank Zappa and Johnnie winter dont mean much to
me...I know who they are...However I also know they are not like you.They
are cool and laid back.Maybe you can learn from them.Guitarist and music is
subjective...However I can see you dont realize this...Its not about whos
right or wrong ziggy...Its about co habitating with other humans...Or are
you so jaded its beyond your comprehension.Like I said there is no right or
wrong...If you want to be rude then I guess thats in your
chemistry...However Im not that jaded.
[Edited on 9/29/2004 by Spidercents]
willy2 - 9/29/2004 at 18:50Umm, I'll get to Ziggy later (laughing too hard right now). Anyway, about
hyperlinks: I'm a real low tech guy and was wondering just what the heck
they are? Are they accessible with poopie smelling fingers? Are they for
pie lovers only? Are they sexually transmittable? Resistant to
antibiotics? You're scaring the hell out of me! Help?
JohnL, went back and re-read your post. Less sure than before about your
meaning, but if I misinterpreted your comments, sorry. By the way, I am on
a higher level, mass quantities of Heineken will do that to you.
Mod, couldn't log in under my old user name (was I bounced!!!?) so now
you've got the second coming.
JohnL - 9/29/2004 at 19:07Ziggy_Stardust - try actually listening to something other than what you
read about in tiger beat or seventeen or wtf ever you are "reading"(marvel
comics?)
Ziggy_Stardust - i could care less what you like and what you dont like.
somewhat contridicting?
This is not some 1 dimension group that autmatically busts you when you
say names we may have never heard of. But you had to be all punk about
it.
[Edited on 29/9/2004 by JohnL]
Spidercents - 9/29/2004 at 20:12Links are not hard...Just got to the site you want to link...Right click on
the address in the bar...Copy...Then come back in the editing process...And
right click where you want to place the link...And paste...Thats
it...Another way is <...a... href...=The address of website or
webpage...>...you can write the name of the link in if you want...In
editing there is an icon for links...press that icon and put the address in
between any thing that pops up.In the href thing omit all the ... I had to
put them in so as not to create an actual link.
[Edited on 9/29/2004 by Spidercents]
[Edited on 9/29/2004 by Spidercents]
willy2 - 9/29/2004 at 21:54Thanks for the info....
ZeldaMentalEvil - 9/1/2005 at 09:57 I only
recently started browsing these forums and have made a few posts too. But
after reading through some of the threads have to admit i'm a lil scared to
make inputs (or posts)......you know.....the flame and all. But hey why
doesnt this thread mention Nuno Bettencourt?
Spidercents - 9/1/2005 at 18:33
I dont think Nuno has been underated...when the band he was in had all its
hits back in the day he was in the guitar mags and stuff...so people knew
who he was and that he could play.
Im not a huge fan of his however I did learn a lot of his tunes years
ago.
ZeldaMentalEvil dont worry about putting your input into posts...If someone
disagrees then I say who cares right?...As for the flaming I am guilty of
that sometimes(in defence) however the administrator and moderators have
put a stop these types of wars...so say whats on your mind and dont
worry...this is your message board/forum too.
ibaneztotheend - 9/2/2005 at 05:53i like clarence whight hes good even though i only seen old videos.
Gerix - 9/2/2005 at 18:44I was just wondering if anyone has ever heard of Doyle Dykes. Maybe it's
my inexperience as a guitar player, but he seems to be a terrific guitar
player. However, I've never found anyone outside my family who has heard
of him. I guess he does a lot of stuff for Taylor Guitars. He played a
really nice piece for a ceremony to present a seedling of the last Liberty
Tree to the Secretary of Natural Resources (I think that was his job)
Anyway, I've been on Launchcast seeing if I could listen to either Satriani
or Vai. I know, I have to get my music from Launchcast, but I don't have a
job, so I'm poor, and the local radio stations don't venture too far from
the 5 or 10 "great new songs," and a few popular old bands. If only there
were stations for musicians.
godofsolo - 11/21/2005 at 22:441. Marty Friedman
2. Jason Becker(ALS )
3. Dave Mustaine
4. Paul Gilbert
5. Buckethead(OK, but not great)
6.Yngwie Malmsteen
To name a few
ricoboc - 11/26/2005 at 00:29In Ziggy's defense I must say that Jan Akkerman is a truly talented player.
I loved his 70's fusion band FOCUS.
I'm sure some of the older players remember the song HOCUS POCUS this song
was covered by Gary Hoey in the late 90's.
The Hamurger Concerto release from Focus was also a great album.
IBZ_RG - 11/29/2005 at 21:00quote: 1. Marty Friedman
2. Jason Becker(ALS )
3. Dave Mustaine
4. Paul Gilbert
5. Buckethead(OK, but not great)
6.Yngwie Malmsteen
To name a few
All of them are underrated and it's sad.
Shred is going under. :no:
GuitarMuscle - 12/5/2005 at 03:39You guys and girls forgot about the late Danny Gatton.
Awesome country guitar..
ricoboc - 12/7/2005 at 05:58I forgot to mention STEVE HOWE from YES.
Djrog00 - 3/15/2006 at 00:03vanstuben is the dumbest contributor to this site. How can anyone in one
post rip on Satriani(show-off, try one of the most well respected
guitarists for teaching Stevie Vai who isnt to bad himself ha, look at
Satrianis backround Jew). He also gave Jimi Hendrix ****, said he was ok,
yeah he was sloppy sometimes live, but didn't he die from a heroin
overdose, he was sloppy too drugged up at shows. And Frusciante sucks, ha,
I laugh at your whole post, I respect metal guitarists a lot too, just
cause i dont like the music doesn't mean I hate the guitarist. Mustane is
ridiculous, I just hate metal. Listen to Chili Peppers Live at Hyde Park
or BSSM. I also thought Neil Young was left out, sometimes his solos were
a little sloppy, but they went with the song and he wrote some good ones,
guitarwise and lyrically.
FrenchCrusader - 3/16/2006 at 16:10Im glad this got started up again, Ozboy said The Edge, but i don't agree I
personaly think he is one of the most OVERrated guitarest in a highly
overrated band in the world. I would say that the old folk guitarest Davy
Graham is HUGELY underrated he is one of my all time favorite gutarists
ever and i mention him alot when there are guitar slinger posts but he is
amazing.
Frenchcrusader.
Rock on, Rock Hard and Rock Heavy!!!
[Edited on 3/16/2006 by FrenchCrusader]
FrenchCrusader - 3/20/2006 at 00:19Ohh and the guitarist from bonjovi i hate the band but the guitarist is
great. Richi Sambora or somthing like that.
hickaction - 3/21/2006 at 02:57I began playing guitar in the 80's and if you didn't know how to shred back
then, friend you couldn't play in a rubber band. I think some of the most
underrated guitar players of that time are as follows...
1. Matthias Jabs/Scorpions. This guy had some of the most fitting riffs,
and guitar solos for that era/a true heavy metal guitarist.
2. Glenn Tipton/Judas Priest...one of the most underrated guitarists of the
80's.
3. Alex Skolnick/ Testament... I read an article that he practiced 8-12
hours a day. He was Testament; I believe he plays jazz now. I had a chance
to meet him in person in Tacoma Washington in the late 80's...great guy.
4. Dave Mustaine/ Megadeth.. In my opinion Dave was a animal when it came
to creativity, rythyms, and lyrics, and the marketing of Megadeth, but he
was never a very flavorful lead guitarist; I thought Marty Friedman was the
best move that he ever made to further the career of Megadeth, and it
showed.
5. Someone posted Malcon Young from Ac/Dc I will have to respectfully
disagree. He never played a solo in his life, and all of AcDc riffs are
just monotinous repeats of the same album made ten times over, but they had
alot of energy.
6. Heres one to check out... This guy is from Italy, and his name is
Peppino D Agostino a fingerpicking virtuoso. I found his book by accident,
and fell in love with his style, energy, and creativity. Every song is
fresh, and alive, his songs are fun to play, as well as challenging, he
plays in about 10 different tunings, so your knowledge of the guitar is
challenged in this aspect..go to his website at Minestrone music.com.
Spidercents - 3/23/2006 at 06:28
What can I say...I like ACDC's riffs...they are catchy.
To each his own I guess.
hickaction - 3/24/2006 at 02:22I heard recently that AcDc was rated the number 5 best band ever. (I
believe the poll was taken in Europe) AcDc is one of those bands that have
stood the test of time. Generally when a bands lead singer dies (Bon Scott)
the band has a tough time recovering from such a career blow, because when
the average joe listens to an album, and they are interested in the song
more then the musical ability of the band, and then low and behold someone
new is in there the band generally takes a tail spin career wise.. Look at
the example of Black Sabbath. But AcDc recovered and recovered well I may
ad. Back in Black is one of the top selling heavy metal albums of all time.
I believe it was Malcom Young that started the band...dont hold me to it
But I will
agree with you that they had some pretty cool songs.
1. Long way to the top...
2. Dirty Deeds
3. Whole lotta Rosie
4. Jailbreak
5. Night Prowler (Richard Ramirez's theme song...sicko!)
6. Back in Black
7. Etc.....
NectarGuru - 4/4/2006 at 01:14MICK RONSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
asknoquestions123 - 11/11/2007 at 05:57i'd have to say billy corgan, check out the song "i am one" by the smashing
pumpkins and you'll see why
mirage_redption - 11/18/2007 at 02:42My personal opinion would have to be Eric Brann of Iron butterfly he was
only 17 when they released In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida and it stayed in the top
forty for a whole year how many seventeen yearold guitarists have had an
accomplishment like that honestly.
mirage_redption - 11/18/2007 at 02:54oh I forgot about Steve morse from Dixie dregs if you haven't heard of him
I suggest going to you tube and watching one of his videos
retroguy90 - 4/25/2008 at 04:40Steve Clark - def leppard. (deceased) very melodic, tasteful lead
guitar.
I can't believe some people are claiming Satriani and Hendrix are
underrated. You're talking about two of the most acclaimed guitarists of
all time.
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